very helpful info BEFORE writing a grant.

The podcast with Elke helped me my grant application to KBF so much. I had no idea that she wanted people to call her *BEFORE* they apply. I assumed all grantors didn't want to talk to entrepreneurs but it turns out each grantor is different and it's worth making the effort to learn a little bit more about a grantor before applying because changed our application completely after talking with Elke.